Need Help in migration to EXT 2 and Apps2SD in CM 8.3.2

[javierponce]

I didn't know where to put this.

I have Rrulo Honeycomb Experience Rom (CM 8.3.2) with Lukkiq V8
My SD is stock (no partition, Sandisk 4gb Class 2)
I saw that in Samdroid Tools there is a menu Apps2sd and in settings I can enable Apps2SD on (it is desabled)

I also saw in Settings>CyanogenmodSettings>Applications>Allow appplication Moving it's disabled
Install location: Automatic

And finally in Settings>Applications>Manage Applications I have 4 tabs Downloaded, Running, All, On SD card: In Downloaded if I tap any of the apps it gives me the option to Move to SD.
In "On SD card" I have an App (PES 2011 of 556kb), and if I press the app it gives me the option to Move to the prone, also have Angry Birds on SD card and it works excellent, flawlessly..


I couldn't find a guide that explain how to proceed with CM 2.2. Only with Samdroid 2.1
I want to have the AppstoSD.
DO I need to make a partition in my SD?

I also want to convert System, Data and Cache to EXT2. (there is a .zip)

What should I do first?

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Tengo unas dudas sobre Apps2sd

Tengo el mod de Rrulo Honeycomb Experience (CM 8.3.2)
Tengo la SD como de fabrica.
Vi que en Samdroid Tools esta el Menu Apps2sd y ahi en Settings puedo habilitar el Apps2sd (no esta habilitado)
Pero tambien vi que en Ajustes>Parametros de CyanogenMod>Application>Permitir movimiento de aplicaciones no esta marcada y despues me pregunta el Lugar de instalacion de las nuevas Apps: esta en automatico.
Ypor ultimo en Ajustes>Aplicaciones>AdministrarAplicaciones tengo todas las aplicaciones y hago tap en alguna como para desinstalar me da la opcion de "mover a la tarjeta SD". Arriba hay una pestaña que dice "en tarjeta SD" y ahi tengo un juego que instale (pes 2011) de 556kb, el cual si miro donde estan todas las aplicaciones y hago tap como para desinstalar me da la opcion de "Mover al telefono"

Yo quiero ponerme todas las aplicaciones en la SD (todavia solo tengo 3 ademas de las q trae el CM).
Mi pregunta es: ¿ya tengo el Apps2SD?, o ¿tengo que hacer la particion si o si de la SD por recovery para instalar todas enla SD? Tambien quiero hacer Todo a EXT2, ¿eso tiene que ver con la particion EXT2 de la SD? que se hace primero?.

[terenceleechan]

yes you need to partition your sd card to use samdroid tools apps2sd. native froyo apps2sd (which you are using with the move to sd card option in manage applications) doesn't need a partition.

you can convert to ext2 using options in recovery. just search for it in the menu "file system conversion"

[javierponce]

Thanks for the answer.

Which one is better or faster? Samdroid tools Apps2sd that needs partition SD)?
or Native Froyo that dosn't need the partition??

For convertion to ext2 i will use the Luismaf .zip

[darth_llamah]

Which one is better or faster? Samdroid tools Apps2sd that needs partition SD)?
or Native Froyo that dosn't need the partition??

- not all apps support native AppsOnSd. Remember that dalvik-cache and data files for all apps go to internal memory even if .apk is on SD and some apps will refuse to install if there is too little free space left in internal memory
- Apps2sd require ext partition on SD (which decreases aviable fat32 partition), you can't boot the phone without SD card inserted. But all .apk's and dalvik-cache can be moved to ext partition freeing internal memory

[javierponce]

Thanks man!
It's almost everything I need to know.

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- Apps2sd require ext partition on SD (which decreases available fat32 partition), you can't boot the phone without SD card inserted. But all .apk's and dalvik-cache can be moved to ext partition freeing internal memory

What do you mean with CANT BOOT withoutSD? I thought it could boot but without Apps.
not even to Recovery or download mode? If I want to Flash to 2.1 Stock via Odin I need to pull out the SIM and SD.
What if I want to install a new Cooked room via Recovery?

[>stYLz]

When your filesystems are on ext2 they are running over SD so when you remove the SD you the phone wont find the filesystems to load

Sent from my GT-i7500 running 2.3.3

[darth_llamah]

What do you mean with CANT BOOT withoutSD? I thought it could boot but without Apps.

I had normal booting to system in mind.
If you use Apps2sd and phone boots without SD card there is a very high chance of bootloop ending with data wipe or backup restoration.

[javierponce]

I had normal booting to system in mind.
If you use Apps2sd and phone boots without SD card there is a very high chance of bootloop ending with data wipe or backup restoration.

I didn't understand that.
Could you explain that again please?
What happend If I turn the phone On w/o the SD?
What do I need to do To change the ROM if I have Apps2SD (with partition)
Thanks in advance!

[darth_llamah]

What happend If I turn the phone On w/o the SD?

High possibility of bootloop ended with /data wipe

What do I need to do To change the ROM if I have Apps2SD (with partition)

If new rom is based on the same android version just install the rom.
If you want to move from one to another (eg Eclair to Froyo) you will have to setup everything from the beginning.

[javierponce]

Thanks for your help man!
You are grosso!